I recently received a 1917 DMW Luger from an estate settlement. The family does not know anything about the history of the piece. I am using the SWAG theory here but by looking it is apparent this was found in a field. The frame shows a lot of rust pock marks, and the original Artillery barrel is also severely marked. From reading this forum I understand that many were re-barreled from time to time. Since this set includes the original Artillery barrel and the Military re-barrel, the finder apparently tried to salvage the piece and make it a shooter.

To me, this is evident from many hammer and punch marks. Here are some of the numbers I found?

Greetings and welcome to the forum: Thank you for the questions about your luger and the pictures. I'm not an 'expert,' but since no one else has responded, I will offer my best thoughts.

Based on the pictures, as you suspect, it appears that you have what started life in 1917 as a DWM artillery luger, also known as the P08 lange or the P08 long. At some point the long barrel and adjustable sight was removed and a shorter barrel installed. However, that also meant that now there was no rear sight, so the rear portion of the toggle was also changed which is why the number does not match any of the other parts. Unfortunately, there are several other issues as well. The take down lever should have a serial number on it but instead appears to show signs of a repair. The side plate should also have a serial number, suggesting it has been replaced too. In spite of all of this, there is more potential problem that would be even more troublesome.

Close-up of the DWM monogram on the first toggle link. Close-up photograph of the frame serial number. To a Great War Imperial Luger, serial number 3161. These were done by DWM with the Luger, as well as Mauser's C96, Mannlicher 1894 pistol, and many others. Black powder guns with no metallic cartridges and weapons designed prior to 1880? The Luger Carbine. It is quite rare to have a matching military stock serial number to the weapon.

From what we can see in your pictures, it looks like the stock lug might have been removed, but we can't seen a good image of the backstrap in order to know with any certainty. Has the stock lug been removed? It was common to do so at the time I suspect the other 'work' was done to modify your luger. If the stock lug is gone, it can be restored, but it is costly. There is a fellow over on GB that restores lugs for $475. I've never seen his work, so I can't comment on the quality. If the stock lug is gone and you have that part restored, then comes the cost of restoring the rest of the pistol.

If you're just interested in cost/value, here is the best that I can do. Hara Hara Mahadeva Telugu Serial All Episodes. As it sits right now -- selling just for the value of parts -- approx.

$400-$550 w/o stock lug. $550-$700 with lug These are the values you can expect if you do all the work of listing at one of the on-line auction sites--Gunauction, Gunbroker, or Ebay would probably offer the largest number of potential bidders. If you just want fast cash, you can take it to your LGS, and you might be offered anywhere between $300 and $600.

If you want to get it into the hands of someone who will restore it, consider selling it to some one like Simpson Ltd. Luger, both of whom can be found on-line.

The down side here is that they probably won't be willing to pay more than $500 and you'll have to find a dealer who will send it to them after you've arranged the sale. Another course of action would be to put it in the hands of an on-line seller with an outstanding reputation on consignment and let him/her sell it. This alternative may see the most money in your pocket, but it is also possible that after commission fees, ffl transfer fees, and shipping you might not see as much money as if you'd sold the parts yourself. This alternative does involve risk and some work on your part to find someone to take it on consignment. If you want to consider a restoration and then selling it, it would not surprise me to see a nicely restore artillery luger selling for $2000-$2200. Going this route would involve much, much more time and a lot of money on your part.

Cost of total restoration -- approx. $1500-$1750 with stock lug. $2000-$2500 w/o stock lug. There is one additional thought.

Do you live near a Cabela's? If you do, you might consider taking it to them. Generally their employees are so uninformed that they have little or no idea of what they're doing. Consequently, they often pay far more than an item is worth. Best of luck. Please keep us posted as to your decision.

Thanks again for the question and pictures. Steve, Thank you. Your information is helpful. As I mentioned in the original post I do not know anything about Luger's an am looking to sell it as it. I will take your suggestions and look around locally to see what I can come up with as far as an FFL willing to list on one of the auction sites. I will also try to contact Simpson LTD and Mr. I must admit I am not sure about the 'stock lug'.

I guess I need to do some digging to figure out what you mean. I have enclosed a photo of the entire back strap.Hopefully it is what you need.

I am close to a Cabela's and have talked to them but was told they would not be interested if it was not functioning. I am going to physically take the piece into the store and ask for an appraisal and see what happens. The 'as is' price will help. My Bride and I like to travel and the money would be enjoyed more on a vacation rather than sitting on a shelf.

Again, thank you for your information. Hello Again and thanks for posting the additional photos. The good news is that your stock lug is still there! It has NOT been ground off.

Yanobox Monotype Serial Download Fatmagul there. For a long period of time, the 1940s thru the 1970s, many folks believed that it was a 'federal crime' to own a pistol to which you could attach a stock. Consequently, many of these folks filed and/or ground off that portion of the backstrap to which a stock could be attached. Some folks even filed and/or ground off so much metal that they ended up with a hole in the backstrap. Your luger still has the lug which is a 'plus' or positive point in its favor.

It still has lots of 'issues,' but it's not as bad as I feared. Another positive point is that your artillery barrel seems to be complete and in pretty good shape based on the pictures. Most of the time folks wanted to turn a standard luger into an artillery model which is the reserve of what seems to have happened with your example. I suspect the artillery barrel will be the most desirable part if you sell it piece by piece.

In order of value, the frame would probably be next, but we have a small problem here. From the pictures, it appears that the lanyard bar at the rear of the frame has been bent slightly. That will hurt the value a little bit. Don't try to straight it; they do break off! Let the buyer straighten it if he/she wants to. Then in order of value would be the toggle assembly. It looks to be in pretty good shape.

That would leave you with the receiver (sometimes referred to as the 'tuning fork' because it looks a little like a tuning fork after the toggle assembly and other parts are removed) and the short barrel. I have seen these two parts (barrel and receive) sell on Fleabay, but because Uncle Sam considers the receiver to be the important part, I'd be a little concerned about simply mailing it off to any old buyer who came along. Selling and shipping all of the other parts wouldn't trouble me. There is a fellow I know distantly who specializes in buying/selling parts. I hope to be seeing him in a couple of weeks.

I would be happy to get his name and address and pass it on to you. I generally hesitate suggesting that folks sell to parts dealers, because most of the time that leads to companies such as Numrich Gun Parts Corp., Jack First, or Bob's Gun Parts. Companies that specialize in gun parts generally only offer pennies on the dollar. For example, if they list a part for sale for $100.00, they will only offer $5.00 to $10.00 to buy it.

That is why folks generally do better selling the parts themselves through one of the on-line auction sites. I also wanted to mention that that is an artillery luger currently offered over on GB that has two bids. It looks to be in worse shape than yours!

You would be a slight disadvantage because you would not have a track record of selling things there, so some folks would be hesitant to bid. But it's a thought and a little bit of a gamble too! Hope this helps some. Thanks again for sharing and keep us posted. Best of luck -- Steve.

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